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Dear @robertoueti and @EVERYONE READING :)

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Excellent choice of topic. But Im not sure what do you really mean that internet is dying. Internet is way more than exchanging content on social media platforms, isn't it?

that they are not visible to a large number of people.

It may as easily happend with Steemit, busy or any other platform. Your data can be stored on STEEM blockchain but may not be shown (because you may be banned) on any of those platforms. or perhaps im wrong?

This is issue I've been discussing with some friends lately and till now I'm a bit confused. We all know that STEEM (as a blockchain) cannot be censored. But Steemit is centralized front-end and it can be easily forced to censor some content.

Am I right or perhaps I'm very wrong?

Yours
Piotr

I agree the web at large is a more robust and valuable resource than SteemIt or the blockchain.

There are millions of real businesses and real community service organizations on the web. These organizations are actively involved in communities and are actually doing things.

The blockchain is a fantasy land that is notoriously divorced from local communities.

It is worth pursuing .... but should not be pursued at the cost of the web at large or the local community.

When I wrote about the death of the internet, I meant how we are currently observing it.
We see that large corporations have the power to censor and prevent people from speaking whatever they want. Here at Steem we do not have this because of its decentralized nature. I believe that the internet as we know it is dying for a totally new and decentralized Internet.

Unfortunately the desire to "create a new internet" seems to lead to greater centralization.

For example the "app" phenomena was an experiment in creating a new internet.

Smartphones have a limited storage capacity. So people download a very small number of apps. These apps have the predictable effect of limiting the number of voices that people encounter.

Even though SteemIt and "dapps" are on decentralized servers. They have the effect of limiting the number of sites that people actually visit.

Dapps create a paradox where people are using the term "decentralization" to create a new paradigm that is actually more centralized that the web at large.

Sorry, I didn't understand, the dApps are doing a decentralization or a centralization?

I think @yintercept means that, while dapps are running on decentralized servers, they have a relatively small user base as compared with the internet as a whole.

So using them effectively limits your audience, as well as the number of posts you can see, simply because they have not yet been widely adopted.

Which is entirely true.

In that way I agree... But adoption is not a huge problem since people can migrate to this platform, even if they are concern about the privacy and censorship from another social media.
Thanks for sharing!

Hi @crescendoofpeace, @robertoueti, @yintercept

Wow. What an interesting conversation you guys have here :)

Damn. Steemit may not be censorship free but still this is the best platform to engage with people I know.

Cheers
Piotr

Yeah, you got it... The internet dying is a way to call the attention for the post, I guess the use of the world was sucess, hahaha. Yeah, the internet is more than that, but we can switch that word for "mainstream social media".

About the visibility, well, is kind different...
In Facebook, if you say something bad for the government and someone want to delete it, it could be possible, however, if you try to do this in Steem, isn't possible. Of course, you could flag a person until the reputation become less than 25, and the post will be hide, but you will be able to see if you want. That is the main difference between that.

About the Steemit centralization, totally agree but we have another ways to use, like @steempeak and @busy, so even they have a centralization front-end, we have a lot of different ways to use it. :)

Cheers!

Dear @robertoueti

however, if you try to do this in Steem, isn't possible
Of course, you could flag a person until the reputation become less than 25, and the post will be hide

Do you mean STEEM or Steemit?

Please keep in mind, that Steemit.com is a front-end which is fully centralized. And once it will get bigger and bring attention of regulators and politicians then this platform will also most likely change.

Do you think Steemit and other platforms cannot implement some extra rules similar to Facebook? Where your post will not be displayed at all? How hard it will be for goverments to put a pressure on every single platform (either steempeak or busy)?

The only way to avoid censorship is to create "decentralized Steemit" :) That's still my opinion. In current stage it will be super easy to force all STEEM front-ends creators to adopt to goverments needs.

Yours
Piotr

In a blockchain, and by the nature of how it is built, it will always be hard for censorship, since the norm of blockchain dev's and enthusiast is to see that any blockchain system should be opensource, and that it has capacity for decentralization. If proven otherwise, many blockchain users will leave that kind of platform.

In the case of steemit inc. it has only controls the steemit blogsite, I still believe that the API , nodes will be censorship free and will continue its development into decentralization, granted that all users and as represented by dynamic and proactive witnesses will steer the platform towards the goal of a new internet.

The internet, and all its existing protocol will improve also, but will remain mostly as it is today.
BUT on top of the internet, is the blockchain network(s).
Many dev's out there will always push for decentralization, and the core of blockchain itself is indeed decentralization.

What is my suggestions;

First, always support blockchain projects who are opensource.
Second, member yourself in a blockchain community, and help that community towards the realization of decentralization.
Lastly, learn anything that will enrich your experience in the blockchain, example, learn to code, learn to market your blockchain, use it in everyday life, invest using fiat(as it increase your stake on the blockchain) and don't stop learning.

Let's us all be vigilant. This is a new frontier. We are all pioneers on this land called decentralization of information. The wheel is turning, and it will no longer be stopped, because man, by all its essence will always wanted to be free.

SteemIt is highly centralized. A few big accounts get most of the votes and attention. New accounts rarely get upvotes.

SteemCleaners is doing a great job identifying spam and @cheetah calls out copied content. The accounts that run afoul of these tools have an experience similar to the shadow-banning and outright censorship that people experience on other sites.

(Quite frankly, I love cheetah and SteemCleaner's efforts to clean up spam and phishing attacks).

The block chain is great because it provides a low cost alternative revenue stream. But we are foolish to ignore the web at large for the delusion that the blockchain is providing a censorship free platform.

I don’t mind @cheetah and @steemcleaners . They are a good way to remind content creators to be the best as they can, copying others without proper citation is bad, and as we are intelligent enough to correct ourselves.
We can self regulate.
These are just bots, still we the human reading the content will judge if a content is worth our time.

And the time we spent, these are value, the gold within the steem blockchain.

The content is the pickaxe for digging the gold.

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Thanks for sharing this link @redpossum

Will check it out right away :)
Piotr

But which digital currency does not have a centralized currency? Bitcoin, ethereum, litecoin, in short, they all have few accounts with an absurdly large balance, centralizing a good part of the coins.
The problem is not the dispersion of the coins, but rather, if you can speak what you really want. You see, even though the accounts are large, you can criticize them without losing your voice on the platform, something that does not exist in other social networks.

speaking about PoW, actually a lot of mining pools can provide 51% attack, so its hard to talk about safety, trust and decentralization in the moment, when our assets are in the hands of certain amount of online gurus.
speaking about PoS, as you said we easily find few accounts with an absurdly large balance, centralizing huge part of coins and power

I dont think we ever had a chance to get to know each other. Great comment @cubapl

Are you Polish?

Cheers
Piotr

Agree with you on that one @yintercept

SteemIt is highly centralized. A few big accounts get most of the votes and attention. New accounts rarely get upvotes.
But we are foolish to ignore the web at large for the delusion that the blockchain is providing a censorship free platform.

You nailed it.

Yours
Piotr

Totally a favor,
The APIs will be decentralized or at least that's what we're expecting. People are increasingly wanting decentralized models, so I believe it is a matter of time before we can secure the hegemony of decentralization without Steemit Inc.

Amazing comment @guruvaj

First, always support blockchain projects who are opensource.

Aren't those projects usually struggling financially?

Let's us all be vigilant. This is a new frontier

I love the sound of it. Being pioneer isn't usually very profitable. But it may be andventure of our lifetime haha :)

Yours
Piotr

I think depending in witch country the platforms are hosted it will be very difficult to force them to something.

Also, it's easily copied the front-end platform, so, if they close one, two will be started.

yes you are correct !

Reputation and flag are closely linked to Stech's blockchain, not the front end. So, in this case, I comment on Steem.

About regulations, I doubt there's any chance of that happening, and I'll say why.
Let's imagine that governments force Steemit Inc to take this post on the air for example. What could they do? Within STEEMIT, they could create a redirect that, if someone tries to access this post it will not appear, or it will be redirected to an error page, for example.
BUT ...
As we are talking about a front end, we have other options such as Busy, Steempeak and Steeve, which are mirrors of the STEEM blockchain and not STEEMIT. This means that in these other places, my posting will be visible unless governments try to file a lawsuit against all of them, and even if they do, they would have to do with all the applications that use STEEM to come in the future.
Even if Steemit Inc wanted to, it would not be able to change the block in which this post is, and consequently they would not be able to make this post censored completely.

So, in conclusion... You can only censored something in STEEM blockchain if, and only if, you can change the block of that post, which, in a such way, it's impossible.

Cheers!

Man, I love how responsive you are @robertoueti! LOVE IT!

Hi @crypto.piotr,

If you run a website that has european users, you have to comply with new rules set by the european community meant to protect the privacy of the users. On a project like steem you might have the raw data in the decentralized blockchain. Centralized platforms like steemit or busy normally would have to comply with these laws. This means that sooner or later, such platforms will have to adapt a certain censorship of the content that comes from the blockchain.

What is great with steem is that anybody can create a frontend to read the content of the blockchain. Maybe in the future we will have a personalised app that filters the content we want to read... That would be an interesting project by the way ;-)

Best regards,
Achim

And the most anticipated comment of the night ... by noone else by famous @achim03 !

This means that sooner or later, such platforms will have to adapt a certain censorship of the content that comes from the blockchain.

That's exactly the way I see it. And faster Steemti will grow, sooner this place will attract attention of authorities. As long as we're still small, noone care.

Maybe in the future we will have a personalised app that filters the content we want to read... That would be an interesting project by the way ;-)

Oh wow. That would actually be amazing idea buddy. Seriously amazing.

Piotr

At the current time, I can clearly say that centralised platforms have some problem due to their nature of rules ( as you say), and tracking. So every person, writing comment, can be tracked. One of my friends wrote something about one of our politician years back when there was a riot on the street. And few days after, he got police on his doorsteps. So much about freedom of speech.

Problem for our freedom as a society is the "corporatization" of social media and big government influencing the modern model of the World Wide Web and social media.

Just like @anomadsoul says...
Facebook sells your personal information. You are a piece of data ready to be sold to the highest bidder in order to be able to sell you random products or services. Youtube is falling apart as creators are searching for any and every way to get OFF the platform and find a way to make money elsewhere. Tumblr banned their primary user base and demographic content consumers. Flickr is - out of the blue - charging their userbase a yearly fee for something that used to be completely free. Patreon is censoring and demonetizing the users who don´t align with their political agenda. Paypal is deciding who can and who can't transfer money for arbitrary reasons. Twitter is a cess pool of a left wing echo chamber. If you don´t agree with someone or if you have unpopular opinion, you will get reported by groups of SJW´s who will get you banned. It is all just crumbling down before our eyes.

But Steem has all that functionality. And more.... Without political agenda, without demonetizing users, without demographic content consumers, with no rules to agree to someone just to stay on the platform....Steem just has different names for all the functions ( dtube, steepshot, steempeak, partiko, musing, fundition, tasteem, d-oracle, steempress-io, actifit....)

Steem has all those parts .. Steemit is just one of them.

It will be hard for any entity to attempt to shut down any part of the Steem userbase.

And the most anticipated comment from @worldfinances

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with me. Again.

Problem for our freedom as a society is the "corporatization" of social media and big government influencing the modern model of the World Wide Web and social media.

Very well said. I wonder if our society is moving on a one way street or can anything ever change. Are we going to end up being nothing but workforce/consumer and product. Traced on every step we make. I wonder sometimes.

Youtube is falling apart as creators are searching for any and every way to get OFF the platform and find a way to make money elsewhere

Seriously? I didnt know that.

If you don´t agree with someone or if you have unpopular opinion, you will get reported

I realized that already. So I decided that I don't want to have strong opinions. I want to understand what is happening around me, observe, ask what other people think and myself share as little of my own views on politics, religion, migration etc.

It is what it is.

Cheers
Piotr

Hey, @crypto.piotr :-) Happy and prosperous 2019 to you and your family.

I'm just stopping to say Thank you for the great discussion you provoked under this post.

Best wishes,
@ravijojla

Indeed @wordfinances,
I think people are realizing that the most used social networks are getting more and more problems related to censorship and freedom, which is why Steem is better at these issues.

hi @crypto.piotr,

Please pardon me for this delayed response.

"The only way to avoid censorship is to create "decentralized Steemit" :) That's still my opinion....."

I also agree to a decentralized Steemit, but what is the need to avoid censorship if the content is obscene and the like?

Sir this is where i was unable to understand. Please throw light on this part extensively so that i may get a chance to understand the subject bit more clearly!

Thank you for your kind reply @marvyinnovation

but what is the need to avoid censorship if the content is obscene and the like?

That's a good question. I didn't think about it. But at the same time I believe that censorship will be huge part of Steemit and every other social media platforms no matter what.

Yours
Piotr

Yes you are right @crypto.piotr Decentralized steemit can be the only answer to escape governmental control and surveillance. I believe that steemit is still not as big as facebook or Instagram but growing. Steemit is still in its infant stage and has a long way to go and I believe that with surge in price of Steem in the future and more people coming into the platform will encourage developers to get steemit decentralized. And the internet as well is not just about social media but is about many more things.

Thanks for that comment @n1hal

So we're pretty much on the same page here. I still wonder why so many people seem to believe that steemit is free of censorship. I cannot grasp it.

Yours
Piotr

I would have preferred it was titled, the Internet as we know it ... but then the title would have become a little lengthy.

Dear @crypto.piotr

First of all you need to remember one thing very clearly (as far as I can understand), just as @ned has said:


Steemit Inc and the Steem Blockchain are two different elements, but they are related to each other.


The Steem blockchain, like other crypto currency blockchain, requires machines and physical things to maintain the transparent ledger (if you know how to extract it) : example: the wallet.

Whereas the Steemit Inc is the platform that gives the opportunity to generate (mine) the crypto of Steem and SBD, in their % calculation in all the programming codes and algorithm.

How it is generated is by the proof of Brains , the behaviour of humans in the social network.

However, after it is generated, as long as there is a way to access to how it is kept, you can still do transactions, provided you have the authorised private keys to do so.

However that being said, with the Rocks database being implemented, the data platform is now centralised but the Steem blockchain is still decentralised where all the witnesses are maintaining that ledger online that everyone so dependent their dear life with.

I hope this gives you an idea how I understands it. haha.

Hi @dses

Thank you for amazing comment.

I agree that we need to separate STEEM and Steemit Inc. But at the same time we cannot separate Ned into 2 different people.

After all it's still one and same person being in charge of those 2 projects, which are kind of 2 different elements but not really. It's like saying that 'bitcoin' and 'blockchain' are two different elements. Indeed they are. But are so heavily connected that separating it is very difficult.

I hope this gives you an idea how I understands it. haha.

It does. I appreciate it a lot.

Yours
Piotr

Probably that is why if Steemit truly sunsets and let the dapps blossom and strive towards perfection, then he can focus on supporting and improving just the blockchain itself.

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Thanks for your kind comment @dses

Dear @crypto.piotr and @robertoueti

This is more a debating topic than the excellency I would say. If we see the title it is so confusing because Steem is also a branch of internet world. May be the title could be Internet 2.0 or 'X'.

Here we have to agree with almost all of the points of the author. But this point is confusing as rightly mentioned by piotr "that they are not visible to a large number of people."

I don't think steem will censor based on front end centralization team.

Dear @kcherukuri

This is more a debating topic than the excellency I would say.

Thanks for your lovely comment :)

And I appreciate your input.
Piotr

This is a valid concern and one I share with you. Stars may have aligned as we have the hacking group @thedarkoverlord on steemit. And I am amazed at how fast they where banned on mainstream media sites. If we have a central point of attack it will surely be compromised.
Let's wait and see, as my gran always says.

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The absence of a single point of failure, is what brings more freedom to Steem.

Really interesting comment @hansdewet

I believe the key @crypto.piotr ...

"But Steemit is centralized front-end and it can be easily forced to censor some content."

... is the position of the all-important Steem Witnesses. Steemit cannot force them to do anything. However, as I detail more in my comments below, I am pragmatic about it and believe that Steemit currently exercises far more influence over these witnesses than is ideal.

I hope 2019 will bring about considerable improvement in the right direction, which is toward more decentralization and the right kind of witnesses, who can be trusted with the future of this blockchain.

I hope 2019 will bring about considerable improvement in the right direction,

Let's hope so @roleerob

We need to have more and more freedom in the platform. According @ned, they are working on it, and we need to see if is that true or not, but until now... I think that Steem is the place that we have more freedom to speech anything that we want.

I agree with you I even deal with that problem now. I try to answer this post for already 10 hours but zero result. I deleted the biggest part of my answer, but still no result.
Steepshot did not work for me and I turned out to be not the only one.
The word "internet" means the connection to the world wide web (www) in my language and Steem is just a part of it.

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i think the more steem gets decentralized the more it will be private and creating anti-goverment influence on steem is also a good thing

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Totally agree... No more governments saying what we need to talk.

yep the internet should be where we are completely free

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Hi @crypto.piotr. maybe Internet is dying because IT infraestructure is highly centralized. As far as I know I have not seen "open" hardware like an "open" cable/satellite.

Regardless of politics​, building such infraestructure would require some degree of centralization, a coordinated effort to join resources. Probably a company with a decentralized equity/governance can build complex projects like an open Internet infraestructure. In this case equity would belong to everyone (like a public asset but without goverment management) for now it sounds like sci-fi. Just my opinion.

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I never been thought about that point of view @caribehub, thanks for open my eyes about that.

That's a very good point @caribehub

maybe Internet is dying because IT infraestructure is highly centralized.

Thx for sharing your thoughts on that issue
Yours
Piotr

I don't know about Steem but I've got a good chunk invested in Tron. They aim to do exactly just that - decentralize the web. With the extremely slow adoption of this platform since HF20, I don't know if it can decentralize the web. People need to flock to Steem else it's just another planet in a universe full of galaxies.

This post was brought to my attention by @crypto.piotr and the subject matter is right up my alley, as they say. Thank you Piotr!

There are a number of things playing on the Kinder-net. In the USA a law was passed, sometime around 2011 or so, that protected search engines from liability for what others published, even if the information was incorrect, incomplete and from an anonymous source (see where this is going?). Many Businesses and individuals being extorted and/or blackmailed on line, tried to appeal to the search engine companies to de-list such publications, because it is impossible to serve Court documents to an anonymous entity hiding behind attorney/client privilege. Initially the very basic and clear answer that came back from both the search engines and US law enforcement was: Screw You!

Not anymore. Today the search engines and website owners are paying attention as that mistake cost them Billions, yes that is a "B" and this isn't over.

Websites like ripoffreports (.) com have taken steps to ensure their smut can't be found in Europe; it seems to operate like an extortion site that charges to remedy the problems their publication causes. They won't take down the original publication but will redact it with a "conflict" resolution. ..for a fee of course..

Then there were revenge porn sites that let someone post video anonymously and the targeted individual, mentioned with their real name and location, was given the opportunity to have it removed for a "fee" of course..

Some website owners are awaiting trial in California and more legal trouble could be waiting for them if they are stupid enough to travel. Another 200, or so, websites and their owners are not immune to similar treatment, it's just a matter of a few more years.

Many social media sites are now finding out that adhering only to American law will eventually backfire when they ignore the Plankton, and the Plankton turns to poison and the whales go hungry :)

I recently found an account here on Steemit that posts material that falls in the category pseudo revenge entrapment blackmail extortion. This guy passes himself off as an underage girl to see if he can get men to agree to meet her. When they show up he has a video Camera rolling and posts the video as if the guy is a criminal. The problems are that: there was no girl, no crime was committed, and if he targets the wrong individual the fall out could affect all of us when some government uses that to target the block-chain for regulation. As it stands, that account has likely already violated EU law.

Yes the kinder-net is like the street and it would be naive to think it's not coming to the block-chain. When smut-sites publish on Steemit under freedom of speech, expect 17 million angry people to also show up to cause a disturbance. They'll be bringing their hackers with them, and why not? For those folks it's just a matter of rinse and repeat after the first round of take-downs.

Do I have any answers? No. This is a double edged Sword for me; I believe in free speech, but I find that truth and accuracy are not easily found. As a contrast, manipulation, omissions, and outright lies rule the day. The problem lies in that we can't assign equal value to everyone's statements. I believe in someone's right to say: politician X is a child molester, but without hard evidence, I also think that statement shouldn't be in the first 10 listings of a Google search. (and that is exactly what happened with the smut-sites, manipulated to rank high in Google)

If you got this far; thank you for your time!
Greetings!
Onno.

P.S. While the laws passed by the EU are recent, in many member states similar laws already existed but cross border enforcement was a matter of money and sovereignty. The EU doesn't have that problem to the same degree.

These are excellent points that you approached in your comment! Thank you very much for contributing.
I believe that, as we are increasing the number of new users and applications, we will see perhaps a significant increase in problems related to blackmail and extortion of some users within the platform.
It is something that we really need to think about, because we will not be able to restrict these publications, they may end up creating serious problems for people who have been judged unfairly.

What an amazing and mature comment @onnovocks

MASSIVE! :D

I recently found an account here on Steemit that posts material that falls in the category pseudo revenge entrapment blackmail extortion

WHaaaat?

This is insane.

He's still here Piotr. Last posted 16 hours ago. See screen shot:

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Image redacted for names.

I'm not going to list the source because I don't want to give this guy any publicity. It states right there that there was no 15 year old girl, so a crime could not have been committed by the individual mentioned. To me this looks like entrapment.

The problem with this publication is lack of validated evidence or worse, possible extortion; pay or we'll publish. I've seen a lot of this kind of garbage, but those websites are now scrambling to keep their smut out of EU jurisdiction. To the best of my knowledge it's not yet possible to do that on the Blockchain.

To me this looks like entrapment.

Indeed it does look like it @onnovocks. Thank you for taking the time to write those comments. Appreciate it a lot.

Yours, Piotr

In the beginning there was DOS, then PC-Dos, and IBM Dos, and the MS-dos. People need to think about that for a couple of minutes. After there came MS-Dos, what happened to the other Dos's? They pretty much disappeared off the radar scope, fell out of view, and went pretty much bye bye, not buy buy.

Now lets remember the Internet explorer wars. Think about that and what happened, yes Netscape climbed out of the ashes and re-arose like a phoenix out of the ashes as I believe Fire Fox, I could have the name wrong, but then MS lost out to Google.

Now I would like to remind people tha Microsoft Corp. bought git-hub. I know when I mentioned this when it happened people were unconcerned about it. I hope people never need to be concerned about it. However most of the decentralization is built through git-hub. Where do the developers send people that want to develop for steem?

If you can't control them, join them, then control them. Open source is only open source if no one can tell you what you can and can not develop.

I do not know about other countries, I barely know about my own when it comes to technology and government controls and corporation controls. Most of what I know is likely wrong, or just hearsay, such as since the Government can not easily trace what you do or where you visit with the TOR web browser it is illegal to use it in America. Fact, Fiction, Hearsay, or Urban Legend, I really don't know for a fact.

That brings us back to Microsoft and the browser wars, I am not sure who ended up winning in the field of American Courts, Microsoft or Netscape/Mozilla, it matters not one bit today, other than Microsoft now controls Git-Hub, owns Git-Hub. Where and what happened to the software suites of Word Perfect, Lotus Works?

I would like to think that Steemit is going to be around in 3 more years, but, but people need to look at history and Microsoft when it comes to things just going away. Microsoft can close down git-hub at will, they OWN IT.

This is another point of failure that we need to find a decentralized substitute.
Just as we created a totally decentralized site like Facebook, Twitter and Youtube, we can create a place where we can distribute our source code like github, we just need to check who could do it.
I had not looked at this prospect, thanks for opening my eyes.

It was not a well advertised or talked about news headline when Microsoft bought git-hub. Here is a link if you missed the story: https://news.microsoft.com/2018/06/04/microsoft-to-acquire-github-for-7-5-billion/

No one spends that kind of money with out a reason.

Totally agree, thanks for the link.

Hi @bashadow

What an amazingly long and mature comment :)

Thx for sharing your story and your view with us. Appreciate.

If you can't control them, join them, then control them. Open source is only open source if no one can tell you what you can and can not develop.

Interesting point of view :) It kind of make sense.

Yours
Piotr

For me Steem is far more transparent blockchain, since it is on top of a social platform, and the core and the heart of steem is indeed the community, that demands, true censorship free, information dissemination, a robust, reliable system for earning on content and other economic gains and entertainment as well.

Blockchain also can be a self governing body that adheres to the community values. We should trust the people. We should trust ourselves.

Much of what you have written @guruvaj, in your comments above, I agree with ...

"... We should trust the people. We should trust ourselves."

... however I would respectfully suggest we be very careful here. Just as there are "good" and "bad" people in the real world, so there are "in here." We should be prudent in determining which is which, as we make our decisions on who we should throw our support behind, moving forward.

Yes, that’s true. Think of it, with “so many bad people (and good people) out there”, we are still here, thinking about progress. We stabilize ourselves.
Let us get involve. Be part of the development, and the bad people out there will just be a part of the cycle of development.

Hmm.. its sound philosophic hahaha.
But don’t worry its just an interpretation, and I am a biologist by education.

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As we are in an environment with freedom, people have a duty to fight accounts that are bad for the system as a whole, so I believe that the bad elements will normally be extinguished from the platform.

Very good @guruvaj ...

"Let us get involve. Be part of the development, and the bad people out there will just be a part of the cycle of development."

... we are agreed on that! 😊 👍

I think it is not quiet true about the censorship. Here are rules too if it comes to the content you post and some people or bots do function as the "police" as well

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Dear @robertoueti,

my interest for your post was provoked by @crypto.piotr. To be provided with an opportunity for a recognition of talented authors like you is a pleasure for me. I'll gladly follow you for more of your future updates.

Best wishes,
@Ravijojla

I have been here since August 2016, and I can confirm it has never been better. I have continually underestimated steemit, even though I have been very consistent. Now I am working on deploying my own third party applications, I have integrated steemit into my website and I'm working on games now. I have been onboarding new users but it can still be difficult to attract peoples of the platform. I think that all of these new front-end web sites are really going to allow us to grow from a million accounts to a billion quicker than anyone thinks. Just keep on steaming and save your steam dollars, and power up! The Best Is Yet To Come

I've been here since August 2017, and I think the platform has improved a lot. It is obvious that there is still a lot to be done, but still, it is great to see that it remains the best platform with freedom and freedom from censorship.

I dont think we ever had a chance to get to know each other. Great comment @darkflame

Now I am working on deploying my own third party applications, I have integrated steemit into my website

Could you tell me more about it? It sounds amazing. Plus I could help you promote your project here on Steemit (I'm supporting interesting projects).

Cheers
Piotr

We are still working out some of the bugs with the new API and github updates but http://connect.mydarkflame.net has integrated SteemConnect and is intended to be a portal for Theatre Patrons to use Steemit and write their stories, while supporting Darkflame Studios.
I also accept Steem and other Cryptos as payment for items in http://shop.mydarkflame.net ! You can play my Free Space Game at http://space.mydarkflame.net or Delegate some SP by playing the SpaceDelegation game http://spaced.mydarkflame.net <--
There's much more to come but I wanted to reply to your comment quickly. Feel free to Follow @Darkflame and check out all my old posts, and to upvote my recent ones too if you like. 2018 has been an interesting year, I made significant progress in some areas and also in some unexpected areas too. Do you have a preferred chat platform? You can always message me on Facebook, find me at https://facebook.com/hotsteem <-- or https://facebook.com/darkflameearth

Hi

I've checked out http://connect.mydarkflame.net/ and I've one question. Do your site try to "recognize" language of it's visitor?

Half of site is in Polish (which would be my language). The thing is that I would like to change to english and I don't even know how to do it.

I will definetly be following you closely now. Im so far impressed with your work.

I made significant progress in some areas and also in some unexpected areas too. Do you have a preferred chat platform?

You can find me on telegram: crypto_piotr or discord: crypto.piotr#3426 but Im not super active on chating platforms. Im more of an email kind of guy. Perhaps you could drop me a message and would keep in touch?

[email protected]

Yours
Piotr

Check settings for language preferences. Thanks for your interest! We will chat more.

Have a great upcoming weekend @darkflame
Piotr

I think this situation is strange for sure. On one hand you have the media giants that are partaking in mass censorship of content they don’t like. On the other hand you have platforms like the Steem blockchain and it’s associated apps. There are lots of benefits to the platform but there is something insidious that has been itching at me. Perhaps the guide over to an immutable blockchain is by design. If you think about it, you can’t delete stuff from it and that’s a gold mine for data mining and governments. The positive aspect to that however is that we continue to expose and document their misdeeds and that too is immutable.
Just my thoughts!

Thanks @crypto.piotr for the discussion suggestion, I am enjoying the various comments.
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Hm... About the applications I didn't see that as a drawback, but the impossibility to delete something I think that could be a problematic, however, I don't see how that could be used against people, at least now. Maybe in the future that could be something very very problematic.

And I'm grateful that you accepted my invitation and joined our little discussion @cmplxty :)

Appreciate it.
Piotr

I totally agree that Steemit is a much better option to FBook and Twitters. But nothing is perfect. As everything else Steemit is changing the direction it goes in- decentralized or controlled or open source or whatever- has to in sync with much of the users.

Steemit Witnesses have a big role to play. So choose your witnesses well and track them if possible. You can change your vote if you feel misrepresented. And as is nature - Big Reps and Big SP count more.

Keep Steemin!!

For sure, the Steem blockchain is not a perfect social media, however, it the most approach of them, and that is why I always said that we need to have more witnesses not only 20 controlling the blockchain.
Thanks for sharing!

As @crypto.piotr shared the link of your post to my wallet, that dragged me to read this blog, I find it to be really interesting, I agree slowly and steadily steem platforms are overtaking the internet, but is lacking mass adoption for sure. We all should ensure the wiser use of this decentralized platform.
Moreover I am happy to see many people showing their point of view through the comments, It's really nice to have such good amount of readers.
Keep flourishing buddy!

Thanks man,
I think that we can have a lot of good discussions here in Steem without the fear of being censorship, and that is amazing, also the reason of I call all my friends to be part of this.
Cheers

I'm sorry for dragging you all the way here @praditya :) But Im glad you found this post interesting.

Thx for sharing your view with us. Appreciate.

Yours
Piotr

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