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RE: Introducing Lost Ninja! - A Non Profit Bid Bot!

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@lost-ninja @thealliance @enginewitty
I just sent you 0.99 STEEM instead of 0.099 STEEM that I meant due to a human error:
https://steemd.com/tx/93be7bcf6c7c8a965fea26b89952e287ac86fd4c

My bid is too big for the round so it will not be voted on in the current round, however it is still too big for your bot even in an empty round.
In yabapmatt's steembottracker it is listed as guaranteed to yield a ROI of over -10%:

And in my case, the loss is guaranteed to yield a loss of over 10%.

Can I get a partial refund?
I believe 0.6 STEEM would be appropriate.

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[-]lost-ninja (43) · 2 days ago
You have been defended with a 100.00% upvote!
I was summoned by @stimialiti.

So, from what I can tell you got a vote that was my 100% vote. Currently that 100% vote is .92 so you actually had a negative ROI of only 7.070707% which is well within the guaranteed -10%.

In effect what you did was you bought the round after the one you bid for entirely.

So, from what I can tell you got a vote that was my 100% vote.

I know and this is what I figured that will happen.

Currently that 100% vote is .92 so you actually had a negative ROI of only 7.070707% which is well within the guaranteed -10%.

guaranteed ROI is not measured retrospectively at a moment chosen by the bot's owner, but at the moment that the vote is cast, and this moment is captured by screen capture here:

that yielded a loss bigger than how your bot is advertised on steembottracker.
Those whom can not see good enough because the picture seems too small can download the picture and view it, or copy and paste it into a picture editor.
0.823$ vote (including the curation rewards that you receive out of it, which make my loss even bigger)
1.3$ per STEEM *0.99 STEEM that was my bid = 1.287$

0.823/1.287=0.63947 which is just over 36% loss, and if I will include your curation part, my loss is even bigger, but I did not take it into the calculation, just mentioned it.

In effect what you did was you bought the round after the one you bid for entirely.

I know and I expected it to happen, since my bid was accidently big (10 times what I meant, due to an erroneous placement of the dot)

Too bad that you choose to stick to 0.6 STEEM (out of 0.99 STEEM) and argue about it, than let me circulate it through your bots.
Another bot owner with which I endured the same accident refunded me, but you are not the only one to refuse it, and stick to a 0.6 STEEM and deceitful advertisement and twist facts in order to make them seem as you falsely advertise.

It is set by the bot owner you are right and I have set it to 10%. Your picture only proves my point. You got a 100% upvote curation was .102 and remainder was .823...

.823 plus .102 equals .925 which is, as I said before, well within the -10% roi offered.

If you have a problem with this you should pay attention to the value of steem in relation to sbd in the future. The system is not set to make it a 10% roi of USD amount but instead is just the number itself. When sbd was really high people were killing it by sending steem because payout value is based in sbd.

This program was written and is currently ran by @yabapmatt. if you would like a more detailed explanation then please ask him.

My bot did exactly what it was coded to do, and promised to do, in this instance. It gave you a .92 vote for a .99 bid plain and simple.

This math can be very tricky to understand. Its for this reason that you must pay close attention. I have made this same mistake when using bid bots in the past as well. It's easy to do.

Lost Ninja does not give refunds if you are not happy with your vote... Only if you do not get one.

The blockchain explorer that shows the picture shows the reward in USD, not in SBD.
Therefore, it is clear that the loss is bigger than 10% since I bid with 0.99SBD which was over 1 USD.

Also, my intention was to bid 0.099, but I either erred, or it was something worse in the middle, since it happened to me with other bots too.
One of their owners partially refunded me for it, the other did not.

You got a 56.71% upvote from @luckyvotes courtesy of @stimialiti!

You got a 80.00% upvote from @sleeplesswhale courtesy of @stimialiti!

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