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RE: #thealliance Tennessee Meet-n-Greet

in #thealliance6 years ago

I can't wait to come friggin party with all of you! Yep, even you @lukestokes, with all due respect, if we aren't as passionate about our positions as we are, we would neither one be where we are or who we are, besides, I think we are coming away from this friends... once we sort out some stuff that's gone on. Our politics (real world) are much the same from what I've seen, but while you go diplomatic, I go special forces assault team. Both are necessary in a well regulated militia ;)

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I look forward to meeting you in person as well, and I imagine your in-person word choice will be quite different from your name-calling, reactionary style online. Just my hunch.

Special forces assault teams are strategic. They may blow things up, but they don't do it indiscriminately with zero f*cks given about who they offend or what collateral damage they cause.

My friends are respectful to everyone, even those they passionately disagree with you. That's part of my standard for friendship.

I imagine your in-person word choice will be quite different from your name-calling, reactionary style online. Just my hunch.

In the real world I have the benefit of concealed carry ;)

PS, as a fully grown adult, I don't believe in being offended and consider such to generally be a character flaw in people.

There's a significant difference between "being offensive" and "being offended." I control my own emotional response, just as others control the words they use and the intention of those words. If someone has the intention of trying to cause emotional discomfort in others (regardless of if they succeed), then it demonstrates that person's views on the well-being of those around them which indicates they are not a trustworthy person or someone you'd want as a friend.

That said, I actually agree with the point you're making, but I wouldn't use the language you're using because, IMO, it's counter-productive to your point. I talk instead about emotional "buttons" people have that can be pushed by others. It demonstrates insecurities and a lack of self-knowledge in terms of "issues" that have to be dealt with. If you want a world where people don't have this "character flaw" (that's the same world I want), then why not use an approach that helps people heal and not be so offended by the words of others? Your approach appears to be to poke and poke and poke in order to get a reaction which, counter-productively, causes more insecurity, doubt, self-loathing, emotional instability, etc, etc in the person you're talking to. The language you use can actually make the problem worse.

If you instead used NVC and understood people's uncommunicated needs, you might be able to help them get rid of their buttons without making them worse. From a deterministic perspective, blaming or judging people too harshly for their character flaws doesn't make sense to me. It makes far more sense to give them useful feedback that helps them move in a positive direction for them and the communities they are part of.

Thought provoking... no snark.

Which implies you're perfectly fine with offending people and then using threats of violence. Not the type of people I consider friends. More so a sign of psychotic behavior, IMO. I look forward to meeting you in person to see what the reality is compared to what you say online.

I had a feeling you would use the word "threat" lol. That was too easy...

That was too easy...

I also don't make friends with trolls.

And yes, I get how "sufficiently advanced trolling is indistinguishable from thought leadership" but referencing concealed carry in this conversation demonstrates insecurities which explain your reactionary style.

Or it demonstrates that you have zero sense of humor, or satire or wit, which is what I seek in the kinds of people I consider friends

And this will be something you'll be able to better determine when we meet. :)

"Jokes" about concealed carry in the context of a social meetup of Steemians as justification for using offensive language is not comedy. If you think this is "wit" or "satire" then I question your social awareness. This too is something I'll be able to better determine when we meet in person.

My social awareness has fed orphans all over the world. What's yours up to lately? :)

Maybe I should keep out of this conversation, but I'll just toss my two cents in and say, @sircork, please come armed only with a guitar and your wit. Let's make this a peaceful party, where everyone feels safe. Have a feeling you're just being snarky, but saying it anyway. ;)

I'm looking forward to meeting you!

Wow you guys are really literal aren't you? I expected a little more here...

PS: You are coming to tennessee. EVERYONE is armed in tennessee. I actually was handed my first rifle when i was 7 on my grandparents farm in red boiling springs. It's one of the last bits of America that is still America, and hence one of my favorite places in the country.

Yes we are and you are very right about the America bit.

I like friends with backbones, and thick skins and a sense of humor and some balls (male or female, figure of speech for all the literalists), forgive me for preferring substance over capitulating political correctness.

Hell my Uncle owned a house in Red Boling Springs for a long time. I lived in Gallatin for a number of years. And even went a couple of days up there to Red Boiling Spings to work my sign biz.

Cool.

What's your uncle's last name? (if thats not a scary privacy concern...)

RBS doesn't have that many people in it :)

Oliver Shalibo... It's French. He has been heavily invested in Real Estate in all areas of Sumner County and Nashville. I just remember back 20 years ago he would talk about going up to his farm in Red Boiling Springs. I think he sold it. He wouldn't live their full time just a place for him to get away. He lived in Gallatin on the Lake and a house also right near the hospital, and also on the Gulch down in nashville and several other places Yep. he never liked staying in one place lol

Sometimes it's hard to know how to read words, without body language and tone of voice, right? Will be good to get together in person. ;)

Given I spend about 8+ hours a week on live video for everyone to see and have for 10 months, and about 140 hours a week on average serving the community in person, I'd expect people to know who I AM, but sure, in Lukes case, a few posts and no presence in the living breathing daily community could make it tough to read him. I guess.

see you soon!

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