When will we wake up?
I feel like nation state governments are this weird dream humanity will wake up from soon. It’s a crazy idea to me that a small group of people can justifiably steal from everyone else, use threats of violence, and draw lines on maps they call borders.
Instead, in our awakened state, we’ll create value through tokenization concepts we invent, building the network effect through voluntary cooperation and trust through multisig permissions, smart contracts, and cryptographic proofs.
Our children will expect more as they grow up in a digital age where the worlds they spend time in are fluid, dynamic, and fun. Free access to information and global opportunities through blockchain projects will change everything.
"It’s a crazy idea to me that a small group of people can justifiably steal from everyone else, use threats of violence, and draw lines on maps they call borders."
I could have copied, pasted, and put quotes on this whole thing! Well said Luke. It's like humanity right now is stepping out of how things have been for hundreds of years, and slowly stepping into the future. It will be amazing to see where we are in lets say 50 years! Hope you and I live to see it. Have a great day. From Bali Indonesia! -Dan
Thanks Dan. :)
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Bad philosophies create oppressive nation states. It's not the nation state (governments) that are the problem. Rather than blame the well, we must blame the ones who are poisoning the well.
I disagree. As evidence, I look to the concept of democide. Governments are institutions based on violent force. We can do better. Read War is a Racket by Smedly Butler. What you are calling government in a positive light ("the well") I would call instead "society" or "governance" or some other word that is voluntary and doesn't include threats of violent force which distort everything.
The real problem is the myth of authority.
I appreciate your straight-forwardness and I the links. That was very thoughtful.
I agree in non-violence, that taxation is an abuse of authority, that involuntary servitude (slavery) is morally wrong. I also agree that threats of violent force distorts moral truths. Might does not make right.
I disagree that authority is a myth. Even anarchists believe in "philosophical" authority: submit to this philosophy and the world will be a better place.
On a personal note:
I believe in the final authority (The Creator God), over human institutions. I choose to submit to that authority as a function of gratitude, before submitting to any "society" as best as I can. The bible records that Daniel was a government worker, but didn't stop praying to His authority, even when it resulted in worldly authorities tossing him to the lions. I also believe that the Most High God Himself established the nation states (kings), and He will cause them the prosper as long as they do not oppress their people and allow men to submit themselves to the Higher authority (King of kings). If the nation state rebels, the Most High will cause them to be destroyed until the people are humbled. Read Psalms 2
Thank you for the respectful reply. Though I no longer hold the same religious beliefs I once did, I can appreciate where you're coming from. When I was in that mindset, I found responses to Romans 13 type arguments helpful, but what really impacted me, I think, was studying logical fallacies and realizing that the version of authority I believed in was, in many ways, completely shaped by the religious (I'd argue, man made) traditions I was a part of. If I changed my alliance traditionally, I would find myself with a new set of authority, meaning it wasn't as final as I once believed.
As I go into in my post, I'm all about voluntary, earned authority. That's totally cool with me. When I talk about the myth, I mean that which drives humans to do things due to unearned authority, often held in place with violence.
Thanks for being open to ideas along your journey.
May The Force Is With Us!
Always!
I've thought a lot about this topic. The idea that a large population could work together minus a central governance is hard for me to wrap my brain around. I agree in theory it would be ideal. But lets look at the current America system. We have numerous political parties but in reality it comes down to Democrats or Republicans. Both parties have their core platforms (understanding they evolve and vary slightly over time). Half of the country sees things the way the Democrats see them and half the country sees things the way the Republicans want them. With the rise of democratic socialism we have an ever growing youth wing that wants the government to care for them from cradle to grave. People that are not free thinkers would never survive in the voluntary world. In a voluntary world you are 100% responsible for every outcome in life. You have no one to blame but yourself. If you have a large portion of the populous this is comfortable with the government being their daddy I see no way for adaptation. I would argue that voluntary cities would have a much better chance of working, but again how you go about creating those in our already "structured" system would not be an easy task.
It does take a lot of thought, but I think it's possible. The book For a New Liberty was very helpful to me personally for thinking about this. I've gone into some more thoughts here as well. I think a big part of the solution is DAC technology. That's why I joined eosDAC: https://eosdac.io/
The American system is another flavor of the same problem: a system of control backed by violent force.
I think we can do better.
I agree, many people do not want to be free. They fear freedom and they don't want to take on personal responsibility. I also think the actual state of existence is being "100% responsible for every outcome in life." Everything else is an illusion and a lie, especially that the government will take care of you. People are harmed by lies and I'd rather help them live in the truth.
I actually disagree with you a little bit there...
I don't think half the country sees things red and the other half blue.
I think that the vast majority of people sit in the middle and agree/disagree with various policies from both sides. Part of the problem, as I see it, is that the Republicans and Democrats are both terrible at governing, but very, very good at ganging up against anyone else and locking them out of the conversation. Ideally you'd have a number of political parties that all need to work together on individual policies to make them work. This two party system is just terrible. Way more competition in this space would help us all.
I do totally agree with you that most people are not free thinkers... but also, why should they be? Everyone has their own life with their own dramas. The whole reason we have elected officials is so that we don't have to worry about everything... I think it's hard for most people to pay attention to the government when they've got their own bills to pay... of course, the irony being that the bills might not be so nuts if they were more free-thinking.
I'm honestly not sure how the voluntary world would work.. who would look after the shared infrastructure?
I think DACs can help. See some links in my reply to the post above for more details.
This cannot come soon enough!
I love the thought exercise of 'If you were in charge of starting on Mars, who would you bring, how would you start?' - knowing what we know now, it would honestly be amazing to start a whole new city (without outside pressures) from scratch.
I think jobs as we understand them will change entirely (which I talked about a little here). That and DAC's :)
When you can see the future then the present can look like the past.
The further into the future you see, the worse it is.
It frustrates the hell out of me, but I just keep telling myself that the ride will be fun. We've got box seats right here to see it all unfold.
Seems to me many things have gotten better over time, not worse.
I agree. That's not what I meant.
I mean the further into the future you can see the more that the present looks like the past. You can see the redundancy everywhere and it is frustrating to know that there is a better way to do things but we are stuck doing things the old way.
Yup!
It's gonna be mega interesting to see things unfold as we take over the world our parents have made.
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Very interesting perspective. You're probably right.
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