RE: World-Altering SHOCKER: Why Government Can't EVER "Shut Down"
The thing is, I often see the word Anarchy being used here on Steemit. And I am very sceptic about that idea. I can't imagine that things would work without any kind of government. Things need to be organized in some way. Streets have to be repaired etc... let's say people will organize that by themselves then... and we would have some sort of "Organization Commettee": wouldn't that just be another government? Or imagine one state declares: "We have Anarchy now. No government. No military. No police." What would other states do? This would be an invitation of taking over this rudderless ship. I am absolutely your opinion in all the other points. But I don't think that having absolutely no kind of government is a good idea yet. We maybe just need better ones. So I can take it as an far away goal that probably will never be achieved by mankind. I watched what happened to @adamkokesh lately. Using this term of Anarchy is dangerous. It means "no government". So what will a government do, when someone who wants Anarchy declares he wants to be president of the government? We just saw that. Unfortunately what happened is absolutely logical. They see him as a state enemy. How couldn't they?
I for one have never used the term anarchist in describing myself. That being said they have some VERY VALID POINTS. I would probably fall more along the lines of a Libertarian.
I personally have no issue with a "government" assuming that it is a voluntary system.
If one wants to opt into the system and pay taxes great, here is X benefit and the right to vote.
If one opts out great they do not get X benefit, they will have no vote, but they can not be harassed, penalized, or punished in any way for opting out.
Government can in no way infringe on an individuals personal liberty.
I have no issue with "Police" assuming that they do not infringe on personal liberty. After all a crime must have a victim. If one has not initiated violence against another or their property, or by means of fraud acquired another's property the police can do nothing to said person.
I have no issue with a standing Military. As long as it is used solely for the defense of the homeland. No nation building, no world policing.
I think this would result in a productive and equitable society.
Okay I guess we have very similar opinions.^^
I think so as well. I hope that I did not come off as harsh. I try to be as gentle as a dove with my words but, at times I can get excited/passionate about things. Thank you very much for the dialog, unfortunately I come across few people who are willing to hash out these sort of things.
I'm also always afraid of being too harsh.^^ You speak from my heart. People are so scared about discussing things. There is no need to. We absolutely should discuss.
We SHOULD and NEED to discuss. This is my primary issue with "government intervention" today. "HATE SPEECH" an undefinable thus meaningless term is really a way to control peoples thoughts.
People need to be able to think freely. People need to be able to discuss openly. If we are not permitted to do these necessities, all hope for society will fall. We would surly be damned. Forever changed into robots with no spark of life, nor meaning.
Believe me I am no enemy of the state, but the controllers of the state are in fact enemy's of all humanity.
This is why I want to wake people up. Not with violence but with inspiration, and understanding.
Sorry...
I'm ranting.
Again thank you for this though provoking dialog. I wish you the best, and look forward to seeing your work in the future.
Nothing left to say anymore. You said it all!!!^^ I am so excited by now! There are other people out there thinking like me!!!
That is, arguably the kindest comment I have ever received on Steemit.
^^ you're welcome
LOL, you edited the post as I was composing my reply. (don't worry I edit far to often) I would like to respond to the @adamkokesh thing. In fact this is a great example of the abuse of power that the government has became drunk on.
What did he do?
He possessed a plant...
He is a member of a religious organization that even the US government has agreed has the right possess said plant.
They don't even abide by their own fabricated unethical rules.
This is the systemic problem.
We all are familiar with the phrase "Power Corrupts, Absolute power Corrupts Absolutely"
Well it's here folks... an Absolutely Corrupt ruling class.
This is why I can't call it democracy. I absolutely like the idea of democracy. But we have no good one on our planet. Democracy should not be about voting a ruler. It should be about everybody rules. And this plant thing... I also absolutely don't believe that this is the real reason for imprisonating him. That's ridiculous. They are ruining him before he could do something as a candidate. "Look at him, he was catched an hour after that with a plant and imprisoned. You can't vote for him, he is a criminal." I think that is their intention.
You are correct, They lie, They cheat, and they steal. They refuse to play by their own rules and this is why so many people favor seemingly "extreme" ideas as Anarchy. This is the Fruit of their own labors. It's so sad. But I digress.
The starting simple idea for anarchy is to make only one small change to our current system. Let people be free to change their citizenship and be subject to a different jurisdiction.
Most people want legal safety and security so there is no reason to believe that they would choose governments that do not deliver on these topics.
The legitimacy of the government is always given by its citizens, so if many people choose to live under a certain jurisdiction there is no reason why there should be any more chaos than now
I understand. (By the way, many thanks you are so interested in discussing about that). But I am not so sure about that. There are also many people willing to violently overtake power. I understand anarchy as there will also be no more military or police. Good chance for bad people coming up to rule (even worse than now). And I think that's a fear of many people. I am a fan of democracy. But my opinion is that democracy should not be about voting a ruler. As it is now. It should be about everybody rules. In my eyes there is no real democracy existing on our planet. I think it would be easier to convince people of a better way of democracy than of anarchy. And you would not have the problem @adamkokesh is now dealing with. Of corse they see him as a state enemy. He wants anarchy, so he wants no government. They can't see it in a different way. Being for a better kind of democracy... they can't make you a state enemy.
I was on the idea to improve democracy for a couple of years. The best I came up with was to randomly choose order of 100 people from the population to make each decision. That would be somewhat similar to a jury based legal system. It could in theory avoid corruption to some extend and represent the population.
But whenever you have democracy you have the dilema that you force a certain idea on the people. If everyone else decides that I should go to war, does that give them a moral right to decide for me?
That would mean, you will need people who want to defend the country by free will. I think people like this exist. Then that would have to be paid and honored well. Maybe there wouldn't be a problem with that. Building a real good idea for a new democracy... of corse difficult. But have we even started yet? Imagine a whole bunch of intelligent people trying to create an idea for that.
My faith in smart people is somewhat at a low point :)
But I would like the idea to have an honest dispute about ideas in our societies.
^^ I guess most people faiths on that are gone. But maybe that's wrong? Something like a group on Steemit would be cool for that. It would be fun. We could brainstorm and think and be creative on that topic. And lough about having stupid ideas. And maybe create a good idea? "Organizing mankind better than before and with more freedom and equality for everybody". Okay that's too long for a tag. ^^