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RE: Oh my gosh...I agree with liberals on this too...even the vigilantism of it all!

I disagree that the suits don't understand. I recall that they are availed of research facilities, as well as planning staff.

The strange commingling of tenets on the left and right is strong evidence of the Hegelian Dialectic in operation. The principles underlying these tenets are clearly not the basis for the planks in the platforms, as the lack of individual liberty espoused on the right is contrary to the principles it claims, and those very liberties are similarly contrary to the principles of collectivism the left stands on.

The fact is that the right is an oxymoron. Effecting a collective to advance individual liberties is dissonant and many independents therefore eschew it. I do. In reality individual liberty is actual, and conformance to social collectives of any kind or stripe is at will, regardless of whether oppressive tactics are employed to compel compliance, or advantage sought by compliant individuals.

Essential goods and services have been provided heretofore by industrial mechanisms, but today we see the initial window of opportunity for individual - not collective - possession of the means of production. At fruition, such individual ability to produce necessary goods (combined with mutually voluntary provision of essential services, such as communications, mutual defense, etc.) obviates all 'isms', government, and collective power.

In time this trend will make obvious to more how personally advantageous such possession of productive capacity is, even to those most indoctrinated and least capable of independent action. No revolution is effected without struggle, after all. Despite inevitable resistance by those whose power will vanish as individuals attain autonomy, physics determines what technology can do, and people will profit - as they always have - from adopting new technology.

It is really only a matter of time before the degradation of society via indoctrination and manipulation becomes obsolete, and then we will finally be granted a vision of what free people might attain when beyond vulnerability to force projection by would be overlords.

I believe this window has been closed in the past, as the powerful preferred to destroy civilization rather than attain to the benefits and improved quality of life that would ensue if they allowed those same benefits to those they had power over. This may happen again. If I am right, then it is strong evidence that even destroying civilization is insufficient to prevent the eventual freedom I predict from eventuating.

Only our extinction could prevent it.

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Thanks for your typically very thoughtful reply. I agree with much of it.

I do think the right-left paradigm is a bogus construct, and that the political realm would be better viewed as a circle, with extreme left and extreme right (such as they can be displayed on a circle, meeting.)

I do not share your optimism about the short-term future, however, short of divine intervention.

While I am not given your definition of 'short-term' I would be astounded if we had not either failed or succeeded at replacing industrial isms within 50 years.

That may not drag me into the coming transcendence, but it's pretty short term as far as the history of technology goes.

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