Misbehaving A Steemit Story

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Imagine, if you will, Spring 1970. I’m sitting in a classroom trying to decide if I can improve my chances on the baseball team by switch hitting and whether or not Sweet Bonnie Brown would actually go out with me. The professor is desperately trying to explain the nuances of Keynesian Economics. Much to my dismay.

Fast forward to Spring 2017. I am caught in a time warp with way too much time on my hands. I decide to read Nate Silver’s “The Signal and the Noise”, a missive about predictions and why they are so often wrong. I liked it, to the point of making some notes and noodling some ideas.

The very next book in my stack is “Misbehaving” by Richard Thaler. It’s Thaler’s life story of banging his head against the wall that is modern Economics.

Nate Silver had plainly said that Economists and Economic Forecasts were the absolute worst, and proved his point with numbers. Thaler offered a clear cut reason for the abysmal failure rate of economists.

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What could any of this have to do with Steemit?

John Maynard Keynes was a British Economist that changed the theory and practice of macroeconomics during the 1930s. His disciples have carried on and expanded the theory until it is sometimes thought of as fact.

Keynesian economics makes some assumptions and has some rules for it’s implementation. One of Thaler’s arguments is with the Keynes’ assertion that ‘the majority of people will act in their best interest in all economic situations’.

Richard Thaler is a classically trained economist that turned to psychology and cognitive science to explain and understand why individuals didn’t follow Keynes’ rules. He shows, with a lot of empirical data, that individuals don’t necessarily act in their best interests all the time. His field of study and practice is known loosely as ‘behavioral economics’.

Nate Silver shows very clearly that Economic predictions are almost universally awful, and in fact, are much worse than weather forecasts. How can that be?

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Real Life Examples

50-50% or 100% vote split?

Talk about a topic that has been discussed and posited in great numbers. Every single ‘Newbie’ guide will at least touch on this topic. Simple mathematics proves that it is much better to take the 50% option in almost every case. Yet still we see lots of people choose the 100% option. It’s simple greed. In lots of cases you simply can not convince people that 50% of a pool is better for them than 100% of a portion of that pool.

This is the primary case I can cite for the Thaler school of economics. It is easy math, it has been explained ad nauseum and it still occurs. Individuals simply will not act in their own self interest in a certain fraction of the general population, which skews any possibility of accurate predictions. I would submit that predictions involving the author reward pool are simply impossible as long as a significant percentage chooses against their best interest.

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Whale Wars

This one is a lot harder to quantify, and calls for some speculation. Part of that speculation involves short term, mid term and long term predictions.

Short term has some possibility. There are definitely rewards for the specific post or comment. Then there is ‘personal satisfaction’. The “I’ll show you” mentality that sees only in the moment. The possibility exists in these cases that the vast majority simply thinks less of all whales. Boorish behavior at the very best, harmful at it’s worst. It reflects poorly on the individual and the group.

We have a group of people that think all the whales stink. Instead of being the object of admiration for their obvious contributions to Steemit and Steem they are derided. In the long term this is a harmful opinion for all of us. We all need the capital and risk taking that the whales have brought to this platform and the blockchain if we want to see growth and expansion. Derision won’t push that forward a single bit.

Flag Wars

We’ve all seen it. Individuals flagging other individuals every time they post or comment. I can not, for the life of me, see how this will ever boost the group or the individual. If the whole group and the individuals share the same goals and ambitions this is simply foolish. No gain and potential loss for everyone.

Which is not to say that flagging a post or comment is a bad thing. If the post or comment is beyond the rules or propriety it should be flagged. It is really the only weapon we have to combat bad behavior.

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Plagiarism

Call it whatever you want. Copy Pasta. Plagiarism. Pretending you wrote something. It’s all the same thing, theft. It is a pestilence on our platform and it really needs to go away. It becomes a huge drain on the available money for all of us. Further, it is just bad behavior.

How does it take money from you and me? By people upvoting it. You’ve seen it, an obviously stolen photo posted with a number of votes, generally from multiple accounts. It’s just theft of services. There are a number of individuals that not only do not operate in their best interest, but contrary to the best interest of the whole platform.

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If Steemit and Steem are to become predictable and grow these problems are going to have to be dealt with. Predictability is absolutely a key to being able to present ourselves to the general public in a favorable light. Presenting ourselves in a favorable light is the key to the huge growth we all want to see.

I think Thaler and Keynes could absolutely agree on one thing: If we don’t clean up our own house we can’t build on it at all. What a shame for us all.

Nate Silver owns the wildly successful website FiveThirtyEight which uses hard numbers to make predictions on everything from Sports Scores to Presidential Elections. If you are a numbers geek, or have an interest in how predictions are made and the errors involved I heavily recommend “The Signal and the Noise”. Available anywhere that books are sold.

Richard Thaler won the Nobel Prize for Economics in October, 2017. His book “Misbehaving” is a very readable autobiographical look at the practice of Economics over the last 50 years. He is a distinguished professor at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business.

Post Addendum! Split prices and which makes more.

Backstory: I actually wrote this post in March 2018. The reason I didn't publish it then is complicated, but it is what it is. I recently saw it, read it, liked it (a lot) and decided to publish now.

When I wrote this the 50-50 option made more money for the author because the price of SBD was over $1.00 USD. Now with the price of SBD under $1.00 USD the option makes no difference except it pays no SBD at 100% and a very teeny slice at 50%.

So it is simply a matter of personal choice at this point. You might wish to remember if (errrr when) the price of SBD is over $1.00 USD.

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I have two reasons for choosing 100% power up on my posts lately. The first probably plays into what you are saying that it is just greed. I take the 100% because the price is so low right now that it just makes sense. I'd argue with you when it comes to my second reason though. The second reason I have been taking 100% is because I want to show that I am committed to the platform. Most of the time, I power up my rewards anyway, so I figure why not save the step and just receive them as SP right up front. There are lots of people that cash out everything they make on Steem each week and do who knows what with it. I don't have a problem with those people, but I am not one of them. I choose to invest back in the platform and grow my account so that eventually I can more substantially help others who are invested in the platform. I probably shouldn't have used the word argue, this is really just my viewpoint. I agree with all the other stuff though :) Great post!

I am 100% in favor of what ever makes the poster the most money. I am convinced that is the 50-50 option particularly if you get some comments and curation there. I'm going to research that a little more to be sure.

I'm staying. I bought a little SP in December, and I did hold some as liquid. Not so much to sell as to possibly buy stuff in the real near future. Everything else is powered up.

Makes sense! I am here for the long term too!

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Thanks for the follow up!

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I choose 50/50 on my posts due to the complete and utter inertia of laziness! I set it when I first started Steem, and I've never bothered to change it. Even when it was recommended that a 100 power up was better for a while! I figure, the difference for an account my size is really not that noticeable.

Signal to Noise is on my list of books to read... Misbehaving, I hadn't heard of, but I have been following the concept of behavioural economics for quite some time now, so the author is familiar to me. I will add it to my list!

Like I told Bozz, I've seen the numbers (but it's been a while) and am convinced the 50-50 is better for the poster. I WILL do the research.

You will love both of them, I think. I certainly did. They are both books that I go back to now and again to 'check' on things.

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Interesting post!
Gave me some insight for sure about the economics of steemit.
Ive always had mine set to 50/50, and probably will just leave it that way unless I see a reason to change it. Honestly, my understanding of steem, sbd, and everything else is rather foggy, and I dont want to mess myself up, haha.

Well, I will check on it this weekend. I will have a definitive answer by Sunday. Now I'm curious :) This could be another case proving the BT Law. "It's not the things I don't know that bite me on the ass, it's the things that I do know that are wrong!"

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Haha, thanks!! That made things more clear for sure! :D
You da bomb! ;)

"... the majority of people will act in their best interest in all economic situations ..." Really? People, supposedly well-educated people, actually believe that?

Trust me, I'm a doctor.

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It is the gospel according to Keynes. The world of economics and banking runs on that theory. Even though it is wrong and easily proven wrong. Just watch one episode of 'who wants to be a millionaire' for proof.

Thaler won the Nobel Prize for Economics in 2017. He is not considered an economist or welcome to present at Economic conferences by the Keynesians. It's a pretty bizarre situation.

A great and thought provoking post, Plagarism is something that drives me nuts and will never vote for someone that does it Well not knowingly, I have been fooled a few times but once i know thats it and infact I generally unfollow them as well and advise them I have and why,
On the 100% or 50/50 I thought I waas doing the right thing with 100% for me to focus on building up on the platform, but it is something I will have to look into again I guess

Edit: I must have been having a complete brain fade when I did this comment I have had my posts set at 50/50 for a long while now have no idea why I thought I was doing 50/50 LOL

I do some side work checking for and fighting plagiarism at Adsactly. I have good tools, and excellent access and still some gets by me. The current hot set up is to copy an article and run it through one of the rewrite services (usually in a foreign language) and then post it as your own.

I will research the mathematics of the split this weekend. I think I know right where to look, just haven't done it. I will publish my findings. Right or wrong :)

I only use google image search and tin eye myself when I am suspicious but they do not always find them, I am surprised to read of the people using rewrite services, I do wonder if they spend more time doing that to steal others work than they would to simply write their own content.

Will be interested to read your follow up on the split when posting

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I just went and checked the update, I will keep as I am with 50/50 for now :)

Very interesting this publication, I agree with the views that are raised regarding Steemit. we are in a community and we are supposed to respect all the terms of it. However, as in life, you see everything: greed, lies, interest and others that harm this ecosystem. Respect must be fundamental for all of us to be able to stay here and this is what you say: "Presenting ourselves in a favorable way is the key to the enormous growth that we all want to see". Thank you for sharing, @bigtom13

Yeah. Those two books I mention were serious 'impact' reads for me. The Signal and the Noise was fascinating because I am a bad numbers geek. I knew that was going to be good. Misbehaving was a gift and I'd had it a while. It really delt with the fact that people don't always react with their best interest.

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