What's More Profitable? Uploading to DTube or Uploading to Youtube and Embedding on Steemit?

in #steemit6 years ago


When I first heard about DTube I was very excited. I was already a fan of Steemit and was already using Steepshot, so having a dedicated video compontent, and more competition for Youtube sounded amazing to me.

I actually wound up finding however that I wasn't posting to DTube as much as I initially thought I would. I have posted some videos to DTube and I do occasionally make a DTube exclusive video, but I overwhelmingly find myself uploading to Youtube and Embedding my videos into Steemit.

This is partly because I'm lazy and stuck in my ways and the extra process of logging into DTube was outside of my normal routine. On those occasions that I did attempt to upload to DTube I would often get errors and glitches and my videos wouldn't upload, this was frustrating and caused me to try to upload to DTube less.

It's only more recently however I've actually been putting thought into what platform I upload my videos to. Ultimately I've decided uploading to Youtube is going to be more profitable for me and here's why...

  1. When I upload to DTube I only have the ability to earn for 5 days. When I upload to Youtube I will earn money for eternity as long as that video sits on Youtube

  2. The upside for DTube is maybe a few more votes from the community who are active on DTube, as well as potentially an upvote from @DTube themselves which could be profitable. That said my experience of uploading a video to DTube is making under $10. On Youtube I'll make over $10 off my first 1,000 views and it will continue to earn more after that so Youtube seems more profitable.

  3. DTube takes 25% of your earnings and your videos are only hosted for 5 years at which point they will be either taken down or you can pay to keep them live.

For the above reasons I have decided ultimately I think uploading my content to Youtube and then embedding that video to Steemit will get some additional views and clicks and eyes on the video from Steemit and that ultimately I think in the long run will be more profitable to me.

Now I'm not saying DTube can't be profitable or doesn't have a place. Look at @kenanqhd or @reseller . These guys are absolutely killing it on DTube. I think DTube is a great way to build an audience, not every Steemit user uses DTube and and people who use DTube seem to like to support others who use it, so while I'm not saying it's easy, I think it may be quicker and maybe a little easier to build a following and an audience on DTube than it would be on Youtube.

I guess ultimately what I'm saying is if your a new creator DTube is probably the better way to go. If you already are monetized on Youtube and already have an established audience and have a decent CPM then Youtube may be the more profitable option.

My plan is to continue using Youtube for majority of my content and embedding it via Steemit. I will also continue to make some DTube exclusives out of content that doesn't really fit with or go with my normal Youtube content as well as potentially about crypto related topics.


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What do you think about d.live? That's a lot more reliable to upload and the ability to live-stream is pretty amazing. @ironshield

I've heard good things about it, I honestly havn't checked it out much? Is there a mobile app and if so which one is the most trusted? When I've looked on Android store in the past there were apps to watch DLive but not to post from or create from.

I know @brianphobos recently had a post about how they are upvoting Trevon, that turned me off a little, of all the people they could support they choose to use their power to support him

I will have to give it a try though

Travon? Of Bitconnect fame? I didn't know he was still posting on the blockchain!

My experience with d.live has been better than d.tube. At least it's reliable! @ironshield

Yeah I think he took some time off but he's back. Brian made an interesting post aobut it the other day...

https://steemit.com/steem/@brianphobos/steemit-inc-should-hire-trevon-james

Interesting article. I wouldn't want Travon to be a witness or get people into Steemit - if they do an ounce of research they'll think Steemit is his next ponzi to promote! That would be some bad press for sure. @ironshield

Very interesting article you have written here and thanks for highlighting it to me much appreciated thankyou rulesforrebels! i personaly would be inclined myself as a artist and supporter to go with Dtube and Dlive as there is no adverts and also YT has alot of fake pretenders which YT lets everyone get away with, this crypto kewlness however is still in the early stages and iam hoping as many other artist must be that our time has now come and we can finally get rewards for our art and work and support each other in this great new community adventure thats unfolding! Cheers Kurt :)

I think this post somewhat proves my point. This post currently has earned $2.05 with 51 upvotes. I actually spend about 15 SBD on upvote bots as well so a good portion of that $2.05 is artificial. Even if we assume the $2.05 is all a result of posting on DTube on Youtube would have earned me this amount off 133 views

It is a tough call a lot of times but for me I was having a real hard time getting DTube or DLive support so even before my crypto channel was monetized on YouTube it made more sense for me to upload to YouTube and embed that and do the post through Busy.org to get the upvote from them.

Or embed and do the whole post through my phone on eSteem.

One thing that's a big mind fuck for me is how you aren't earning more and how you aren't further ahead in (68) score, I still don't know what to call that.

In terms of Steemit you've been on here for a long time, you post about crypto and Steemit which seem to be the "right" topics to post about, and more than anything your to my knowledge the best ambassador for this platform. Maybe it's because we move in the same circles but when I checkout comments and/or posts by @mitchyboy @kenanqhd @robertandrew and others I see you supporting people, responding to comments, upvoting people, interacting with people, your probably one of the best ambassadors for this platform but that doesn't seem to be recognized or maybe your just too real and authentic and this platform is about jerking each other off about how awesome Steemit is. Don't get me wrong its a cool platform but there's nothing wrong with recognizing issues which maybe is what keeps some big guys from supporting you.

I guess my point is if motherfucking @brianphobos can't get some love from @dtube and @dlive then what chance do the rest of us stand? I think your awesome man. Heroes dont all wear capes, keep on trucking, 'Merica Fuck Yeah!!!

oh also, yeah pretty shitty about @dlive helping out Trevon who's probably done more harm to crypto and steemit than most, yet people who actually support and contribute to this project can't get some love.

Yeah to tell you the truth it is pretty upsetting in a lot of respects but I will just keep trucking ahead as much as possible.

I think you bring up an important point. If I'm on Steemit this much for 2 years and I can't live off of it then it makes you wonder if any content creator can really live off of this content platform. There have only been a few content creators who really came out way ahead. We could somewhat say the same for YouTube but there are way more people who have been able to do something with that platform and get some consistency. That is why I'm a firm believer that the proper iteration of a platform is to have crypto and ad revenue. That is somewhat of the whole grail in my opinion and I have been talking to some others about joining me in doing this but to be honest I don't have enough capital to do it and to find the venture capital to do it would be really tough. Doing an ICO has a lot of issues. Doing an Airdrop on EOS is likely the best scenario to be honest. It would just take a large team with a lot of focus on pulling it off. It of course wouldn't be perfect either but there is a lot that can be learned from this platform.

What I would do is take 50% of the ad revenue and purchase more of the underlying currency and that would get vested into the users account. So for the ad revenue users would be getting the STEEM power equivalent. That would provide more buy support on the exchanges and would give the users that additional income stream. The other 50% would be used for hosting expenses, wages, etc.

I haven't done a review on it but dude I checked back in to see if Vice got anything done and it was fucking puthetic. They raised millions and then it was like they were saying they were going to launch the mainnet and they didn't have shit done. It was honestly sad. I was trying to be a witness over there and actually wasted $35 in VPS expenses dealing with it and everything wasn't even close.

But yeah I'm too honest about stuff without enough money on this platform to really make waves. Like we have said before most of the people just hang with people around their voting power and even the follower counts have a lot to do with how much STEEM power you have. I mean look at the https://steemit.com/@freedom account. We don't even known who it is but they have over 2000 followers with no posts and a ton of STEEM power.

Dtube is more profitable than youtube. Just need some improvement for uploading fast video in dtube.

Some people like @reseller and @kenanqhd have done VERY well utilizing DTube so there's definitely something to be said for it.

That said I think it really depends on each persons situation. If your monetized no Youtube and have a high CPM I think you potentially could make more from Youtube not only in the short term, but even more so over the long term.

Steemit which comprises @DTube we only earn for 5 days so that's 5 days to make your money as opposed to eternity on Youtube. Also if my Steemit post gets 1,000 views that video is going to make me $15 or $20 just off the views from this platform and that alone is more than I've ever made off a DTube post.

Now one thing I'm not really taking into account is being consistant and consistantly uploading videos to DTube over some sustained amount of time to really give myself a chance to build an audience, that has worked out great for @reseller and @kenanqhd among many others. For me my content isn't as appreciated on this platform as it is on Youtube. If I was making crypto content or content about Steemit itself I would probably do better and it would probably be more worthwhile for me to upload here but at least at this point in time steemit and Dtube are somewhat insular in teh sense content about Steemit and Dtube and crypto are what tends to do the best IMHO

The 5 day earning limit is absolutely crucial from a profitability standpoint. The owners of media libraries know very well that licensing and royalties for leasing content is an extremely valuable revenue stream. Just look at how Netflix and Hulu cycle through content that they didnt produce themselves.

Hey buddy, are you saying the 5 day earning limit is good for Steemit and Dtube or its good for creators?

I know intially that almost stopped me from using Steemit in the early days, i'm all about passive income and a little effort upfront for passive earning or traffic down teh road and that is one huge thing that Steemit lacks. I understand the reasoning for it but early on that was a huge turnoff for me

Glad you brought it up! - I've been creating content for #YouTube for over 12 YEARS! I WAS a 'Partner' and earning a TINY amount (at BEST ~$20 per month) in recent times - THEN they demonetised MOST of us!

I came to D-Tube, and have been uploading content HERE also, and whilst it took MONTHS to get even ONE DOLLAR (steemit) I DID suddenly earn US$70 OVERNIGHT! - UNHEARD OF on YT for us little guys...

Of course, DTUBE is infinitely more complex in the steemit side, and very limited to 4 tags, and worst; not (yet) viewable on a TV like youtube, which is where I WATCH 99% of my videos.

It LOOKED like youtube was going to reinstate my monetisation; have been waiting for over 4 months or so, but latest is that it's been 'held back for further review'!! - with NO TIMEFRAME as to WHEN that MAY happen!!

I don't breach their rules, I try to vreate enjoyable content, and this is how they treat what is the VAST magority of their loyal contributors!

Hey Steve, I totally understand the frustrations with Youtube, I have plenty of my own but my personal experience differs a bit. I consider myself a "small" youtuber, my channel is comming up on 80k subs so growing but I'm not huge.

My best month was $4500, even at like 25,000 subscribers which is pretty small I was earning consistantly $2500 per month. More recently earnings have tanked a bit but still WAY more than Dtube.

In fairness I havn't given DTube as much of a chance.

In terms of my experience as a viewer I can start watching Youtube and 6 hours later still be watching, youtube's algorithm is spot on and shows me stuff I didn't even know I liked, they know me better than me. I don't have that same experience on Steemit/DTube.

I think this platform needs a wider array of content ie so many genres and niches are lacking a presence here. I also think the 5 dday earning limit kind of prohibits long form content as the reward just isn't there. For example nobody is ever gonna make a docmentary just for Steemit, only if its cross posted on Youtube and other platforms and steemit is just another distribution channel where the creator isn't reliant on revenue from just this platform.

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to hate on Steemit but for me Youtube has been much more profitable. I have a pretty good folowing, I post pretty consistant, I try to make quality content and I'm lucky to make $2 a post here.

Understood...But in fairness; Dtube of course, doesn't have a snippet of youtubes giant conglomerate backed MASSIVE array of servers (ACRES!!) either to cope...I'd like to say "maybe one day", but...
And being paid every week HERE, beats MY yearly YT payment (former anyhow!!) because it needs as you know (but other readers may not) one to attain US$100 before payout.

this was good video and commment about Dtube i really enjoy the entire steemit platform, good job , sincerely from JR of Exciting World Cryptos

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